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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2009 10:47 am

Looks like we can also purchase Helm and Chest tokens - presumably for T8.5. Perhaps we will be able to purchase T8 with Emblems of Valor. If this goes live, it would be good news for those who've not been lucky with the T7.5 helm token drops from KT.
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2009 12:43 pm

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Edit: Ironically, the leather DPS belt is still better than the plate DPS belt
roll a rogue imo Very Happy hmm never knew plate users needs agi more than strength Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2009 1:01 pm

Leather Belt: 1.34% Crit, 124 AP, 1.49% hit, 6.95% expertise
Plate Belt: 174 AP, 1.31% Crit, 1.49% hit.

Difference between 124AP and 174 AP = 50 AP. That's 3.21 Strength Gems.
Difference between 0 Expertise and 6.95 Expertise = 3.56 Expertise Gems

What do you notice?

One of them has more overall stats. Strength doesn't scale with any fury warrior talents. So that leaves Blessings of Kings and the scaling isn't that great, you usually only end up with 2-4 extra AP than you would with an equivalent AP piece. If you're Arms or Prot, strength is a lot better. All it sacrifices is stamina. And I guess you like stamina because you like tanking mobs as TG right? :p

Depending on how the rest of the Ulduar gear is itemised, the leather belt is the safer choice because it provides more strength equivalence points than the plate belt. Only if you can ensure you'll stay over the expertise cap at all times does the plate belt outweigh the leather :p
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2009 2:07 pm

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Depending on how the rest of the Ulduar gear is itemised, the leather belt is the safer choice because it provides more strength equivalence points than the plate belt. Only if you can ensure you'll stay over the expertise cap at all times does the plate belt outweigh the leather :p
well im absuing orc racial skill +5 expertise Smile totally no problem in capping it, i understand about other race but too bad yea Neutral strenght scale with your auto swing, that makes u get more rage if u hit or crit isn't it? :p

just for your info: i don't take any other weapon except axes, i don't take any other armor besides plate. dying is part of the game Very Happy

sorry if i say something wrong and correct me if im wrong ya~
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2009 5:07 pm

Oh I know what you mean, Str is great. It's our best stat once hit and exp. capped.
But if the best weapons in the game aren't axes, like right now, you'll miss a lot of expertise (10 expertise right? From your MH + OH?).

Anyway, I found this really awesome link on EJ.

http://www.mmotactics.com/news/02-27-2009/ulduar-panoramas

Ulduar looks amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 04, 2009 7:11 pm

nah i belive there will be good axes next time Cool
axe is more warrior-ish don't u agree with that sym? :p

WTB more fierce cool looking axes!
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 10:05 am

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Items screen shots are in wow champion
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 12:21 pm

Saw the stats for melee dps plate. ArmP and Haste again, dumb stats.
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 12:39 pm

Aeriagloris wrote:
nah i belive there will be good axes next time Cool
axe is more warrior-ish don't u agree with that sym? :p

WTB more fierce cool looking axes!

I think the Weighted Throwing Axe is fierce...

.. for a gnome...
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 3:14 pm

Much easier to see and sort the new stuff here: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?items&filter=cr=82;crs=1;crv=0#0-2+12+1
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 10:52 am

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I'm not going to preview the changes here, but I will say that the next PTR build has some dps warrior changes.

1) These are not all the changes. We don't expect these changes to bring up Arms alone.
2) A couple of the changes have significant ramifications for Battle Stance.
3) A couple of other changes may seem cautious. They are. If they work then we will consider buffing them even more over time.

Sorry to be so cryptic. You'll hopefully get to see for yourself soon.
Hold me Aeria, I'm afraid and excited!

They might be giving us... A NEW ICON FOR BATTLE STANCE!
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 11:00 am

Get real. The art team is probably still working on new Shaman icons, eh Nau?
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 11:35 am

Yeah boy. Please stay in line behind Shamans.
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 11:48 am

Shaman icons are fine, l2p (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Qsq9J3g8g&feature=channel_page)
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptySat Mar 07, 2009 9:14 am

.... New PTR notes, i'm in disbelief.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=42702.0


Relevant things to me:

Enchant Weapon - Blade Ward *New Enchant* - Permanently enchants a weapon to sometimes grant Blade Warding when striking an enemy. Blade Warding increases your parry rating by 200 and inflicts 600 to 800 damage on your next parry. Effect can stack up to 5 times and lasts 10 sec. This enchantment requires the wielder is at least level 75.

Arms

* Battle Stance now increase the armor penetration of all your attacks by 10%.
* Shattering Throw *New Skill* - Throws your weapon at the enemy causing [ 50% of AP + 12 ] damage (based on attack power), reducing the armor on the target by 20% for 10 sec, and removing any invulnerabilities. 25 Rage, 30 yd range, 1.5 sec cast, 5 min cooldown

Fury

* Berserker Stance now increase all damage taken by 5% (Down from 10%)
* Intimidating Shout cooldown has been lowered from 3 min to 2 min.

Protection

* Defensive Stance now reduces damage caused by 5%. (Down from 10%)
* Disarm now disarm the enemy's main hand and ranged weapons.
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptySat Mar 07, 2009 3:20 pm

can someone explain this for me?

"Mage (Skills List / Talent + Glyph Calc.)
Fire

* Ignite: The damage done by this talent no longer receives modifications from effects that increase or decrease damage done by a percentage."

in some simple terms.. =x Blizzard's wording confuses me > <
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 08, 2009 8:58 am

It doesn't gain from power infusion, arcane power and buffs like that.

It will still gain damage from trinkets which increase spell damage by a flat number like 200 (example).

They did that to deep wounds a few patches ago Sad
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 08, 2009 9:16 am

* Armor Penetration Rating: All classes now receive 25% more benefit from Armor Penetration Rating.
* Haste Rating: Shamans, Paladins, Druids, and Death Knights now receive 30% more melee haste from Haste Rating.
* Taunts: All player or pet-generated taunts now have a shared diminish category.


So now we know what they meant when they said theyre buffing those stats.

I almost spit out my coffee when I saw warriors weren't getting the same treatment with haste but I guess that's understandable. Imagine warriors swinging two-handers at the speed of 2.0 or lower without windfury ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 08, 2009 9:35 am

Nefance wrote:
can someone explain this for me?

"Mage (Skills List / Talent + Glyph Calc.)
Fire

* Ignite: The damage done by this talent no longer receives modifications from effects that increase or decrease damage done by a percentage."

in some simple terms.. =x Blizzard's wording confuses me > <

I guess it won't get bonus from spells like curse of elements. I think typically in a raid, there is one debuff on boss giving extra 13% spell damage... so this spell won't benefit from it.
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptySun Mar 08, 2009 10:37 am

damn tat sux.. no more 5k rolling ignites > <
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PostSubject: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 09, 2009 12:12 am

/drools at http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/march/lotrafenspearofthedamned2.jpg hmm i remember iva said she wont change her black ice for anything. /giggles
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 09, 2009 9:51 am

Damn. Seriously, that is one long spear... how is anyone able to fight with it.
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 09, 2009 11:19 am

Pfff Nau....

With a longer one of course!

/reachdownmypants
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 09, 2009 11:20 am

/pullsoutaholsteredWhip
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PostSubject: Re: PTR Patch notes for 3.1   PTR Patch notes for 3.1 - Page 3 EmptyMon Mar 09, 2009 1:34 pm

Hmmm Boobsie, I had a sneaking suspicion your 'turban' was actually something else leading to your pants. /scary
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